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During this time Bruce brought Utsler backstage with him, and all four became close friends.
Bruce became frustrated with the backstage politics of the wrestling business and began searching for another career.
Several names were considered before Bruce recalled his dream of a clown running around in Delray, which became the inspiration for the group's new name: Insane Clown Posse.
The group decided they would all don face paint due to the success of their former clown-painted hype man.
Joseph Bruce (Violent J) and Joseph Utsler (Shaggy 2 Dope) met in Oak Park, a suburb on the north border of Detroit, Michigan.
Along with Utsler's brother, John, and friend, Lacy, they wrestled in backyard rings that they had built themselves.
After receiving a positive response, Bruce and Utsler have since continued to spray Faygo onto audiences.
After Battery/Jive Records showed little interest in promoting the album, Insane Clown Posse funded the promotion of Riddle Box independently.After recording only three songs for ,000 with Miller, Alex Abbiss made his first major managerial move by finding another producer, Mike E. Allmusic reviewer Stephen Thomas Erlewine compared the group's performance on the album to "a third-rate Beastie Boys supported by a cut-rate Faith No More, all tempered with the sensibility that made GWAR cult heroes—only with..sexism and jokes that..up sounding racist".During a concert in 1993, Bruce threw an open bottle of Faygo at a row of concertgoers who were giving them the finger.Bruce met Esham for the first time at the station and praised him.Esham wished Bruce well and Bruce gave the rapper a copy of Dog Beats; this began the friendship and professional relationship between Psychopathic Records and Esham's label, Reel Life Productions.In late 1991, the group had the problem of having spent more money on production than was covered by returns.